http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ Prolapse Health Forums » Recent Posts en Mon, 21 May 2012 03:54:18 +0000 http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1381#post-8240 Sun, 20 May 2012 22:38:46 +0000 Jo 8240@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Great to read your update Helen and I look forward to us all being able to keep supporting each other on these issues and many others &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1396#post-8239 Sun, 20 May 2012 22:35:58 +0000 Jo 8239@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Genevieve, I know this feeling to some extent - not sure what it is though. rectocel is the one prolapse I'm not sure if I have (must change my signature actually). Hope your PTs treatment can help even if certain diagnosis can't be made... </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8238 Sun, 20 May 2012 22:33:40 +0000 Jo 8238@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>*grin* Genevieve - breastfeeding vs bottle - that's a discussion I wouldn't touch with a bargepole!!! &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1396#post-8237 Sun, 20 May 2012 21:51:22 +0000 GenevieveL 8237@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Since 2 weeks I have awful anal feeling of heaviness, pressure in my rectal area. I feel like I have to go number 2 but i know there is nothing to poo<br /> It's exactly like you're fully dilated at 10cm and you are feeling you have to go number 2 but you know it's not that</p> <p>I know it's hard to explain..</p> <p>I did talk to that with my PT on friday she did a full exam of my vagina and rectum (not fun but i needed to know)</p> <p>She tell me i have no rectocel (???) that's good news but where this feeling came from??</p> <p>She said she don't know and the only thing shw could think would be so like nerve damage (not exactly that but i don't know how to say it) and she did a special treatment with her e-stim machin</p> <p>Just want to know if any of you have ever felt that way?</p> <p>I also have another question for stage 1 uterus prolapse<br /> My uterus is a full finger inside, mean if i put my whole finger in my vagina it is there (i really have small hand thought)<br /> Is it a stage 1?<br /> I know it's not a big difference, just wondering </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1387#post-8236 Sun, 20 May 2012 21:39:26 +0000 GenevieveL 8236@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>You seem to have a very good PT, a complete evaluation, that's good</p> <p>As for sex, it's a little embarrasing to admit but before i never got vaginal orgasm and since the birth of my little one and this prolapse things, i did so much kegel and kegel8 work that i did have some vaginal orgams!! So maybe with proper exercice you will regain that ability </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8235 Sun, 20 May 2012 21:30:36 +0000 GenevieveL 8235@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>OHH congrats on your baby boy, i'm so happy for you!!</p> <p>Do you remember in an older post you said having your boy will be the victory of the decade for you?<br /> It really touched me when you said that</p> <p>COngrats again, you're such a strong woman<br /> I wish you a lot of precious moment with your little boy</p> <p>xx </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8234 Sun, 20 May 2012 21:27:03 +0000 GenevieveL 8234@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Just want to say that i really enjoy read all your stories and opinions on that question, that's really helpful!</p> <p>I really love how much everyone is so respectful in sharing their opinions<br /> On other forum some mothers almost can get a fight just on a topic like breastfeeding or bottle feeding lol &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; <br /> I'm happy here it's not that way </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1381#post-8233 Sun, 20 May 2012 21:09:30 +0000 HelenMc 8233@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>It has been a while since I had a chance to post but I have been so grateful for all the helpful responses. It's a major relief i'm not alone (not that I'd wish prolapse on anyone however....). Your wisdom and experience is much appreciated. I already feel better and have a little more perspective on what's happening and that I can expect to feel down, it is normal, but also that I can take action to help myself. Love the idea of dressing nicely, doing nails or getting a haircut - simple but practical, and I will be definitely trying that out.<br /> Had a big chat with my hubby too. He called me the day I wrote my post, he was apologetic and sad that he'd hurt me. I realised from what he told me that some of the comments he'd made, which I'd taken as cruel, were really an honest attempt to find out what is happening, to get some more information. They were just delivered in man-speak, without forethought about the effect the words could have. It struck me that I have not given him much, actually the reality is I've been deliberately hiding the real situation, afraid he would think less of me if he knew the extent of how broken and damaged I am. I haven't even given him the basic info sheet that the doctor who did my diagnosis mailed to me. I haven't even told him the exact name of what I have. So I've inadvertantly been playing a big part in his negative reactions and misunderstanding. Linda V, thanks for passing on the link that I can show him about prolapse. Will have to gather up all my courage, but hopefully I'll be brave enough to pass it on to him very soon!! Marie it is a great encouragement to hear that the sad and bad aspects of prolapse can ultimately be glue that bonds us closer together with our hubbies instead of the other way around.<br /> Thanks again everyone &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8232 Sun, 20 May 2012 20:53:16 +0000 HelenMc 8232@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I've been rivetted to this thread ever since triomama's first post.<br /> Having just found out I'm pregnant with my 2nd, that huge decision of how to deliver the baby is already keeping me awake at night - and I'm not due till Jan!!! (Hate to think what I'll be feeling like in December) So thanks everyone for your ideas and the different experiences you've shared.<br /> Like you Marie and Emmama, one of my greatest fears is incontinence and it seems a real possibility if there is an unforeseen complication during vaginal delivery. Also there is the psychological impact of that fear which would make pregnancy so much more scary and then make it harder to look after a newborn afterwards. So I can't help feeling I'd rather a planned c-section, in spite of the good points some of you have made about the risks of c-section and its being a harder recovery. at the end of the day, I suppose I just can't imagine how I would get by, with 2 young children, at the age of 40, and incontinent.<br /> I also think we are very lucky we can choose to some degree how our babies arrive, and that we have medical help there if its required. Although from what triomama and Christina have said, it is obvious we also have to sometimes tell the medical profession what we want and persist even if they think another alternative would be better. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8231 Sun, 20 May 2012 17:58:13 +0000 Jo 8231@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Hey, great to read the collection of stories here, and I agree: this will be a great resources for many in time to come! Thought I'd add something else very briefly: mental health is a MASSIVE factor here and we have to make the decisions that feel right for our mental health as much as our physical health (in as much as they can be separated anyway!). I have a friend who had two elective c sections because she just couldn't cope with the idea of labour. She KNEW it would be too much for her and while she could have perhaps gone ahead and had a very empowering experience, she made a decision that looked after herself in the state she felt she was in. Just mentioning that because nothing to do with physical/prolapse but still totally valid, I think.</p> <p>In NZ there's quite a backlash against "medicalisation of childbirth". I agree that a "natural" birth can be great, but we are so luck to have medical options: most of us in developed countries don't face the distinct possibility of dying in childbirth, having our baby die. AND there are times when intervention can save sanity and I'm all for that &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>I guess I'm really glad there are women who've fought for right to midwives, homebirths, non interventionist practices (in backlash against the popular practices of the 60s and 70s?) and also really glad to have all sorts of choices available to suit individuals. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8230 Sun, 20 May 2012 16:48:12 +0000 Emmama 8230@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I have had both a vaginal birth and a c-section so I thought I'd give my tuppence worth here. My first birth was horrible, ended up in theatre with baby delivered by kjellands forceps (I think they are banned in the USA!) while I was prepped for an emergency CS if the forceps failed. That type of forceps are used when the baby is high up, is stuck the wrong way round and needs to be turned to come out. The alternative was a CS at full dilation. I begged not to have the CS as I was terrified of surgery and a bit brain-washed by the NCT (National Childbirth Assoc - a UK thing that promotes 'natural' childbirth). Both me and the baby were OK but I did have a large episiotomy, a lot of blood loss and serious trauma! </p> <p>When I got pregnant again I was immediately offered a CS. I realised I was totally traumatised by the first birth, both the facts of it and how I was treated by the midwives and obstetricians. I chose a different hospital for birth number 2 but I was still pretty sure I would go natural (so that I could 'get it right' this time). About midway through the pregnancy I discovered my prolapse and freaked out. Then my old episiotomy scar started hurting and I realised it had healed sort of open, leaving a dent into my muscles. I'm sure this has contributed to the rectocele as the dent is right next to it. </p> <p>I began to have real fears about serious tears, further damage and incontinence. I was worried about the prolapse getting worse but I think if my scar had been fine I would still have gone for it au naturel. I started to think of the dent into my muscles like the little pre-torn bit in a bag of chocolate or something that lets you tear it open easily - haha!</p> <p>So I decided to have a section. It was a hard decision, as I felt a fair amount of pressure to have a better birth and make up for my past 'mistakes' (ridiculous I know). The CS was hard to recover from and I had pain for a fair while. About 2 months in I was thinking I should just have had the vaginal birth as the recovery really did suck. By 3 months and still now I am sure I made the right choice. </p> <p>I still have the prolapse and it doesn't seem to have either improved or worsened. I've been working hard on physio and I'm hoping for some improvement when I stop breastfeeding.</p> <p>Sorry this is so long. To answer the original question - no one can tell you what you should do, but if I had serious concerns about continence I would definitely have a CS. Vaginal births can be wonderful (or so I am told) but if I were you I would feel I had sustained enough damage in that way. Good luck x </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8229 Sun, 20 May 2012 15:27:13 +0000 Jo 8229@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Wonderful wonderful wonderful! </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8228 Sun, 20 May 2012 01:00:50 +0000 newmom 8228@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Way to go newmama! Can't wait to hear more of your story! So happy for you! </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1389#post-8226 Sat, 19 May 2012 23:34:23 +0000 Trey 8226@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Dear Fi, why do you feel guilty? From my nursing perspective and having worked for prominent urologists, I can absolutely assure you that you have nothing to feel guilty for, NOTHING!!</p> <p>Your surgery was no doubt based on the advice of the expert, your doctor. You trusted him or her. Either the potential complications were not explained sufficiently or you were not given enough information to make sure you did understand. You are the patient, not the expert.</p> <p>Because your complication occurred early, you will do much, much better with whatever surgery they do to correct things. Trust me on this because the longer the mesh is in place the greater the likelihood is for scarring and infection. You should be much better off.</p> <p>Now, you must be proactive on this. Your job is to stay healthy and monitor yourself for any signs of infection. This is fairly easy. If you get a fever you call the doctor. If you get a discharge, especially if unpleasant odor, you call the doctor. Continue to call until you are seen.</p> <p>I would begin with your GP. The research people have goals in mind. They won't have the compassion your GP should have. So I would really beg your GP for help and guidance.</p> <p>In the US everyone would fear a lawsuit and they would be afraid to be involved. In Scotland, I don't believe this will be an issue.</p> <p>Please try to de- stress and take one step at a time. We will be here to help. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1394#post-8225 Sat, 19 May 2012 22:42:41 +0000 new_mama 8225@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I was 100% effaced at 35 weeks w/ my first son. I didn't give birth til 39 wks 5 days. At the time I thought oh yay but it seems to have little to do w/ when they actually come. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1394#post-8224 Sat, 19 May 2012 22:35:43 +0000 camjul 8224@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Yes, I was about that at 32 weeks with my third, which surprised me because I had little progress early on (or later for that matter) with my first two children, both of which I had C/S with. I didn't go into labor until 40 weeks and 3 days with my third, so things can progress slowly. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1394#post-8222 Sat, 19 May 2012 22:15:25 +0000 triomama 8222@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I am 32 weeks now and I am 50% effaced. I was in hospital for preterm labor. They cannot give me medicine for contractions because I am alergic to it and I have palpitations. Did any of you effaced early and carried the baby to term?<br /> I am worried my girl will come too soon since I have so many contractions every day.<br /> With other 2 kids I had preterm labor but I did not effaced earlier than 37 weeks. I know baby lungs are not mature yet. Please let me know if any of you experience this problem<br /> thank you<br /> triomama </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1393#post-8221 Sat, 19 May 2012 21:16:24 +0000 Marie Marie 8221@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Hello Linda,<br /> I just read your post supporting Fi. I was really hoping you might share something with the forum. I am wondering what kinds of tests and scans your doctor performed prior to your surgery in order to fully assess the status of your pelvic floor supports. Was it possible that there was already some weakening of your posterior wall and ligaments/uterine supports prior to the surgery that may have been identified through testing prior to your surgery! I think it is just awful that all they fixed was your bladder, of course because it was certainly the most prominent prolapse, but now you are finding so many other weaknesses in your pelvic floor. I would hope with a second surgery, if at all possible, that all weaknesses could be identified and fixed in one further surgery!<br /> We have so much to be blessed for in our lives, I agree..... Your outlook is amazing and one to be envied!!! I am happy you are sharing your experience with us all, as I am sure many of us will one day go through surgery as well! I know I most likely will.......my poor muscles.....will one day entirely give way......my work can only keep them up for so long!<br /> Thanks<br /> MM </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8220 Sat, 19 May 2012 20:56:28 +0000 Marie Marie 8220@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Hello girls!<br /> This is still such a great topic and discussion!! Please keep posting if people have anything to add, I am sure there are so many women out there searching this same question finding this thread and seeing such great value in it!<br /> I do want to say one thing about my choice to go forward with a c-section for this second pregnancy. My choice is not because I do not want to worsen my prolapse, that in my opinion would be the wrong reason to do it. Pregnancy alone will very possibly worsen your prolapse. With all the relaxin and progesterone running through your body in pregnancy combined with carting a growing baby and gaining anywhere from 25-40 lbs.....that alone will very likely cause things to worsen to some extent, so please know that prior to going into a pregnancy. The key is to not have a change in comfort level, sensation, visual appearance and symptoms!!! This is generally how we judge worsening......without scans from ultrasound, that is really the only way we can judge. So, that said, I have accepted that my prolapse could very well worsen by just carrying my little one. My choice for a c-section is based on it being my decision that provides the higher probability of me being able to get back to my baseline comfort level in the near future. Due to my unique situation and prior birthing experience, this is my best choice. It is very possible that if I experience further tears and trauma to my muscles from birthing naturally that I may become completely incontinent at 29 years old. Prolapse is one thing, but to permanently loose all muscle control is another thing. After two years of hard work at stabalizing my prolapse, muscle damage, scars and of course, my emotional state, I can now handle and accept it. What I could not handle is cathetarizing daily or possibly needing to wear full diapers daily at 29. As such, due to my muscle damage that I have finally stabilized to a point of function to some extent, I will have a c-section. A c-section will save me from a perineal tear. So this is why I have made the decision I made. If I was solely due to prolapse, I may consider natural......but then again....maybe I would not. That is not my situation so I try not to speculate what I would choose if I were in that situation.<br /> As such, when reading posts on people's thoughts on this matter, please consider that they are making decisions and have opinions based on their experiences and the stories they hear, but we all have our own choices and reasons for those choices! I think we are all strong, brave, wonderful women for going on and growing our families after our bodies failed us in such a way with our previous births/birth.....so, how we get the little angel out of us should be irrelevant in my view.....so long as we are well informed and in our heart believe we are doing the best for all parties involved (baby, husband, ourselves) then we should move forward with our decision with pride!<br /> These are my thoughts!!!<br /> MM </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1389#post-8219 Sat, 19 May 2012 20:22:36 +0000 Linda V 8219@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Hang in there and try not to get too emotional. I know it is hard because you are also still recovering from surgery (which is tough) and knowing the surgery failed makes it harder. I found my new prolapse (rectocele) within a week of my surgery for bladder prolapse - it's tough. My dr told me they generally like surgeries to be 12 weeks apart. I told her I'm in no rush for any new surgery and have been trying to improve with HabIt and Kegel8 (rectocele is about 2 cm inside - so it's manageable). Although I also feel a little bit of panic because I felt like my cervix dropped and last night took out the dreaded mirror and sure enough it was right there (I think) also about 2 cm in. ARRGGGGGG!!! Not sure if I want to scream or cry but so far have done neither. Just trying to focus on the things that I am blessed with (and apparently a good pelvic floor is not one of them! LOL)</p> <p>Anyway, don't be hard on yourself, it may not have been anything that you did. Please keep us posted. Hugs </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8217 Sat, 19 May 2012 20:00:52 +0000 Trey 8217@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Forgive me for going off topic for a post, but the previous member mentioning 'hope' reminds me of how I felt on another forum. What I felt was panic and despair. I had a hyst many years ago, and then twenty plus years later got a prolapse. From all I read on the other forum I could expect a horrible outcome of perhaps having a collapse of what was left of my pelvic apparatus. I thought OMG surgery will be the only answer. Well today my stage three and three plus prolapse is a two most of the time and when I do something like lifting too heavy or straining I can get my prolapse back to a comfortable two in a few days with Estrace cream and the Kegel 8 and watching my posture more.</p> <p>So, I rarely think about my pop, but I simply do whatever it takes to 'treat' it, if needed. I know I can make it ok again so the panic and fear is gone. It is annoying at times, but that's it. </p> <p>I think one must have a positive attitude to help healing. Stress is horrible for the immune system. So hope is so important! </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8216 Sat, 19 May 2012 19:44:08 +0000 Clothmumma 8216@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I do hear you, Christina - but sadly what I hear the loudest is someone who felt backed into a corner by those she trusted. I think regardless of the outcome that is so far from ideal, the prolapse really just adds fuel to a fire, lit without your wanting. That in itself is a lot to process I imagine.</p> <p>Thank you Kristina also, for clearing up the "A+B is NOT equal to C". There are so many factors involved in prolapse and susceptibility that it is unhelpful to believe that birth method is the main or sole cause of all our issues. </p> <p>This forum creates a beautiful space to explore all the factors and issues, and the best part of all is that we hear of so much hope here, amongst our despair, from women who are seeing real improvement and enjoying life.</p> <p>xx </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355&page=2#post-8215 Sat, 19 May 2012 17:41:43 +0000 Trey 8215@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Birthing is so personal that I don't think anyone has the right to pressure anyone into the type of birth, except for a personal physician who would be expected to provide valid reasons for their choice. It's amazing how often other people think they know what is best for us. Fortunately, I'm too old to give a damn for others' opinions in what should be personal choices.</p> <p>It's a real shame you had such bad results and I hope you can improve and have less pain and find workable solutions to make this situation less difficult. Depression is often a result of anger turned inward so perhaps voicing your anger will help--even to those who advised you-- but in a nice way if possible. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1389#post-8214 Sat, 19 May 2012 15:16:51 +0000 Fi 8214@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Thanks again for your reply and support. Contact at research project was unhelpful in that she couldn't give me any indication of what might happen or when. She was not very reassuring in that she kept saying that there had not been a failure as early as this before so I came away feeling panic stricken - and guilty!!!!!!!!!!!1<br /> Left message with surgeon's secretary expecting a phone call that day but nothing so far. will phone again at beginning of the week.<br /> Thanks </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355#post-8213 Sat, 19 May 2012 11:15:33 +0000 Christina 8213@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>In my posts I do make it clear that I am supportive of anyone's birthing decisions provided they are safe and that the mother is informed of possible outcomes. More power to every mother, no matter what she chooses, not just to women who choose to have another vaginal birth with prolapse.</p> <p>My main problem when it comes to choosing how to deliver a baby is with people making women feel like they are doing a bad thing by choosing c-section over vaginal birth. In many cases, a c-section is the right decision, as it would have been for me but unfortunately, I will never get a re-do. I am the one who will have to live with my issues for the rest of my life, not the person who told me I should not even have had the right to choose c-section for my second birth just to avoid prolapse or incontinence. Not the person who told me that I would be missing out on a life-changing experience if I had another c-section. Not the person who told me that I would be taking "the easy way out" if I chose a repeat c-section. None of these people have to take care of my kids all day while in pain. None of these people are in my shoes. These were all comments from my sisters and my midwife.</p> <p>Having experienced both vaginal and surgical birth, I am in a unique position to say that it was, in fact, the vaginal birth that did all the damage to me. Before that birth, I had no pelvic issues at all except for vulvar varicose veins. I can only form an opinion based on my experience and the experience of other mothers I have spoken to. I can say with 100% honesty that every mother I know who has had a vaginal birth after a c-section has issues they never had after their c-sections, and every mother I know who has only had c-sections has no issues at all. That is my experience.</p> <p>I wonder how many women would have chosen an elective primary c-section had they known what would happen to their bodies after delivery. I'm pretty sure many of us would have made different decisions than we did. What good is it to avoid a c-section to just end up with surgery for prolapse and/or a lifetime of "managing" a prolapse?</p> <p>I feel like I gave uniformed consent when I agreed to VBAC, and I am just concerned that women are making decisions based on incomplete information. If they are fully informed they can make the right decision for themselves, but if they aren't informed, how can they make that kind of decision? </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355#post-8212 Sat, 19 May 2012 10:35:11 +0000 Kristina 8212@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Christina,</p> <p>I do not feel you are being in any way judgemental about women who choose vaginal birth over c-section. However You say time and time again that the result will be negative in regards to vagina/prolapse/pain but if a woman understands that and still would like to have a natural birth more power to her.</p> <p>My point is A+B does not have to =C Vaginal birth does not have to mean more trauma and most often with subsequent pregnancies does not. Obviously nothing is 100%. I know for me choosing to have a second birth vaginally was great. I had baby around 9:30pm slept in the hospital that night was released around 10:00am the next morning. I walked around went shopping, spent one night at a friends house. The following day I was on a ferry boat back to Montserrat. To my amazement no discomfort or pain. I did not even get sick on the boat (I always do). no pain walking no pain living... It was great and far more successful then it was with the first.</p> <p>That is my experience.</p> <p>Again I think it is a difficult decisions, but there are those of us who have had very successful outcomes with vaginal.</p> <p>Blessings,</p> <p>Kristina </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1380#post-8211 Sat, 19 May 2012 10:03:12 +0000 aussiebel 8211@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I think Tasha has resources for prregnant ladies on her website! I am not sure about the estim sorry </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355#post-8210 Sat, 19 May 2012 09:55:36 +0000 aussiebel 8210@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I think one day this forum could be a resource for not only women with prolapse but also medical professionals...to see how it affects us as well as see the different problems and outcomes different people have. Of course they wouldn't be able to use it professionally, but it would really give people an insight into what it's like for us. Everyone writes so openly and honestly.</p> <p>And I agree we are so lucky to have such an amazing group of women writing. I was just saying to my partner earlier that I am so grateful for this forum and the people on it, it really saves me and helps me get through this positively<br /> Thankyou all xxxxx </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8209 Sat, 19 May 2012 09:48:56 +0000 Trey 8209@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Whoopee, he's here! Way to go new_ mama! Hope you get over the flu quickly. Don't let yourself go if it doesn't improve quickly. Mama Trey wants you well for all the activity of caring for Drew and the rest of your family. Looking forward to your next post. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355#post-8208 Sat, 19 May 2012 09:33:23 +0000 Marie Marie 8208@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I think we sure have attracted an amazing group of women to this forum. For us all to be able to so politely and respectfully share our own experiences, emotions and thoughts about this extremely fragile topic is above and beyond amazing!! We should all be so proud of ourselves and our group for being so supportive and open!!!<br /> CONGRATS girls!!! I love this forum. I even had my husband read this thread.....he was amazed at our ability to discuss without emotional anger or upset surfacing from differing beliefs!!! I love it!<br /> MM </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8207 Sat, 19 May 2012 08:41:30 +0000 Momto2girls 8207@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>9lbs 11ozs?!? That made me squeeze my legs together! And naturally!? You go girl! Congrats New Mama! So so happy for you and your family! &lt;img src=&quot;http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/my-plugins/bb-smilies/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1377#post-8206 Sat, 19 May 2012 08:40:15 +0000 aussiebel 8206@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Hope everything is ok. I would go get checked like trey said. I had retained placenta last time and my bleeding became very heavy, very quickly and it was very scary! Luckily I got to the hospital before that, if it happened at home I would have freaked out </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1390#post-8205 Sat, 19 May 2012 08:33:11 +0000 aussiebel 8205@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Do u have a smartphone? If I use my smartphone too much I get an eye twitch too:) </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1355#post-8204 Sat, 19 May 2012 08:29:13 +0000 aussiebel 8204@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>I think it's important to remember that csection can also lead to a bad prolapse. I didn't have an amazing vaginal birth and I will most probably choose a csection next time as I don't think I will mentally be able to prepare myself for another vaginal birth, not knowing what the outcome will be. Although in a way that is silly, as I know that there can be worse outcomes with a csection. But I have not had a Csec before, so I can weigh up the pros and cons without so much emotion, when I think of having a baby naturally, I feel sick in my stomach. Hopefully though, when I'm ready to have another baby I can reflect on it more without so much feeling and make a decision. Sorry this probably does not make much sense. </p> http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/topic.php?id=1391#post-8203 Sat, 19 May 2012 08:01:16 +0000 aussiebel 8203@http://prolapsehealth.com/forums/ <p>Congrats you amazing amazing amazing woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to earth little Drew! can't wait to hear your birth story and I'm so happy for you and your family!!!! Well done !!!!!!!! </p>